The Fantasticast Episode 80: Fantastic Four #69 - By Ben Betrayed

The Fantasticast Episode 80

The Fantasticast Episode 80

Doom/Silver Surfer: The Original Odd Couple

I say that, there's absolutely no Doctor Doom or Silver Surfer in this episode...

What there is, however, is Steve Lacey and Andrew Leyland's coverage of the second part of the greatest late-era Stan Lee and Jack Kirby Fantastic Four story. Doctor Stand-ini has done something terrible to Ben Grimm, turning him against the team in a murderous rage.

We also take a brief look at the first four episodes of the 1967 Hanna Barbera Fantastic Four animated series. And we read some listener e-mails. We also take a look at the chilling consequences of a flippant line from this issue's mystery villain. And revisit the Real Housewives of Latveria. Because that's a joke that never gets old.

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Episode cover design by Samuel Savage.