Fantastic Four #31: Reed's Stretchy Body 87

Fantastic Four #31, page 10, panel 3

Fantastic Four #31: Reed's Stretchy Body 87

Written by: Stan Lee, The Man With The Talented Typewriter!

Illustrated by: Jack Kirby, The Man With The Power-Packed Pencil!

Inked by: Chic Stone, The Man With The Panoramic Paint-Brush!

Lettered by: S. Rosen - The Man With The Leaky Lettering Pen!

Another of the Mole Man's defences is a series of spores that turn, on contact, into cactus-esque floating balls that suck oxygen from the air. Before this, however, they were missiles fired at the Human Torch. So, that's missile > spore > floaty oxygen-sucking cactus ball. Which is quite a life cycle!

The lack of oxygen causes Johnny's flame to extinguish (a rare accurate cause of de-flaming in these early comics), and Reed has to stretch out to grab hold of his team-mate. Quite how he manages to get his arms outside of the Fantasticar without either him or Ben passing out from oxygen starvation isn't really dealt with.

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Fantastic Four #31: Flame On 74

Fantastic Four #31, page 9, panel 3

Fantastic Four #31: Flame On 74

Written by: Stan Lee, The Man With The Talented Typewriter!

Illustrated by: Jack Kirby, The Man With The Power-Packed Pencil!

Inked by: Chic Stone, The Man With The Panoramic Paint-Brush!

Lettered by: S. Rosen - The Man With The Leaky Lettering Pen!

I love misaligned colouring in old comics. It's a reminder of the fragility of the production process and when coupled with some unearthly imagery, it truly invokes the pop art feel that Marvel Pop Art Productions could never quite achieve when they really tried to. It's a shame these errors get corrected in the Marvel Masterworks series and beyond.

These giant metallic tentacles are defence mechanisms used by the Mole Man to prevent people from following the missing city blocks. Of course, they're nothing to the Fantastic Four, and Johnny's flame more than handles them. Maybe Mole Man should have used a more durable metal than aluminium...

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four #31 on our thirty-fifth episode: House of the Fallen Storm

Fantastic Four #31: Reed's Stretchy Body 86

Fantastic Four #31, page 4, panel 2

Fantastic Four #31: Reed's Stretchy Body 86

Written by: Stan Lee, The Man With The Talented Typewriter!

Illustrated by: Jack Kirby, The Man With The Power-Packed Pencil!

Inked by: Chic Stone, The Man With The Panoramic Paint-Brush!

Lettered by: S. Rosen - The Man With The Leaky Lettering Pen!

Well, I ask you - if you were blessed with the ability to stretch your body to inhuman lengths, how would you choose to investigate the disappearance of an entire city block which left nothing but a deep, foreboding hole in the ground?

The next panel shows that the hole is deeper than the limits of Reed's stretching (previously established to be around a dozen or so city blocks), but I have to wonder if Reed might be able to cover more ground if he tried stretching anything other than his torso. That neck must be able to grant him a little more distance...

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Fantastic Four #31: Property Damage 37

Fantastic Four #31, page 2, panel 4

Fantastic Four #31: Property Damage 37

Written by: Stan Lee, The Man With The Talented Typewriter!

Illustrated by: Jack Kirby, The Man With The Power-Packed Pencil!

Inked by: Chic Stone, The Man With The Panoramic Paint-Brush!

Lettered by: S. Rosen - The Man With The Leaky Lettering Pen!

Well, if you're going to have an earthquake powerful enough to hurl The Thing around, you've got to expect that there's some damage. Following a very specific trail of destruction, Johnny finds a winded Ben sitting in a damaged shower cubicle.

Kirby understands what he needs to show and what he doesn't in order to sell the gag. I have no doubt that he would have drawn a great splash page of Ben, reclining against the cracked tiles, as water cascades from the shower head and pipes onto his head. We don't need to see that - it's far funnier to see his feet protruding from the cubicle.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four #31 on our thirty-fifth episode: House of the Fallen Storm

Fantastic Four #31: Reed's Stretchy Body 85

Fantastic Four #31, page 1

Fantastic Four #31: Reed's Stretchy Body 85

Written by: Stan Lee, The Man With The Talented Typewriter!

Illustrated by: Jack Kirby, The Man With The Power-Packed Pencil!

Inked by: Chic Stone, The Man With The Panoramic Paint-Brush!

Lettered by: S. Rosen - The Man With The Leaky Lettering Pen!

Fantastic Four #31 opens as we see, with strange tremors causing chaos at the top of the Baxter Building. And what tremors - hurling Ben's chair into the air several feet, and propelling a table lamp at speed across the room. One hopes that at some point following this issue, Reed commission a full structural survey of the Baxter Building!

What I love about this stretchy moment is the complete redundancy of it. Reed has stretched his neck forward and around to the right just to avoid the lamp... that was nowhere near his head in the first place! Never has the phrase 'wind your neck in' been more appropriate...

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four #31 on our thirty-fifth episode: House of the Fallen Storm

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Blatant Sexism 5

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 23, panel 4

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Blatant Sexism 2

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

We just had to squeeze in one more piece of terrible sexism before we finished with this issue. Reed's completed his serum and it's time to finish this story with a face-off between these two long-time rivals. What follows is a pretty tense standoff between Reed and Doom, reflecting on their shared history and conflict. So, why do we have to start with a terrible, off-hand sexist comment?

This could have been fixed so easily, and the narrative intent is there. Reed's drawing Doom's attention back to himself, and could easily have done so by by asking, 'Why battle Sue Doom?' Unfortunately, Stan's sexist tendencies came to the fore, and this undermines the whole thing.

It's an uncomfortable moment to end our coverage of this annual on, and proof that even one of the strongest issues of the Fantastic Four can be undercut by the dated attitudes of the age in which it was published.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Sue's Force Fields of Awesome 17

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 23, panel 1

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Sue's Force Fields of Awesome 17

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

After a few months away as a result of being very busy and disorganised, we're back. Our Patreon briefly dipped below the blogging goal, and then back up again, so the tireless and thankless task of chronicling the tropes of the Fantastic Four continue.

We're getting very close to the end of Fantastic Four Annual #2. At this point in the story, Doom has been lured to the Baxter Building, and all Reed needs is a few more minutes to complete his serum that will allow him to win the day. With Johnny still recovering from his ordeal and Ben pinned to the ground by Doom's miniature paralysis gun, it's up to Sue to buy Doom the time he needs.

First, she throws him off guard by turning him invisible. Then, she deploys her force-fields in one of the most innovative ways we've seen to date. She creates little invisible pellets underneath Doom's feet to throw him off-balance. It's intelligent, creative, and effective, as Doom goes crashing into a nearby computer bank. It's great stuff from Sue.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Reed's Stretchy Body 84

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 21, panels 3-4

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Reed's Stretchy Body 84

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

Of course, Johnny has no idea about the feedback, and gets whacked with a huge dose of energy, causing him to fall from the sky. Reed stretches out to grab him, saving his soon-to-be-brother-in-law from a pavement-related death, but putting himself through intense pain at the same time.

I love how Kirby shows Reed's agony. He's drawn at an uncomfortable angle, his face is contorted, wracked with pain. The idea that there would be a price for the team's powers, one paid in pain, occasionally pops up in the early issues, but isn't really considered part of the Fantastic Four status quo. Having been watching Fantastic Four (2015) and the extras recently, this was something that the filmmakers wanted to apply to the film, especially when it comes to Sue's powers. I'll let you judge how successful they were...

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Nova Time 8

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 20, panel 3

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Nova Time 8

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

Johnny's gone nova again, employing his high-intensity light/heat burst. In this case, he's holding onto a conducting rod-and-cable, which will channel his expended energy directly to Doctor Doom, shorting out his personal force-field.

Of course, there's a catch - Johnny has to drop the rod as soon as he bursts, or there'll be a dangerous feedback that will knock him from the sky. How this rod is supposed to channel anything when it's falling to the ground is a bit beyond me, but Reed's the one who has engineered it, and who am I to question his wisdom?

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: It's Clobberin' Time 4

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 19, panel 4

Fantastic Four Annual #2: It's Clobberin' Time 4

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

The fourth instance of Ben crying 'It's clobberin' time' is the first time that it's treated as a moment of awesome within the story. Ben is placed front and centre, running towards the reader, eager to engage with Doctor Doom in battle. He's pushing Reed out of the way, Doom's lifelong nemesis, so keen is he to land a punch.

It's still a rather small panel, and in the wider context of this very busy story, it doesn't really stand out. But Jack is understanding the value of providing hero moments for the team, and Stan knows the power of a good catchphrase. And, let's face it, this is a huge step up from blurry figures battling in the mist.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Blatant Sexism 4

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 18, panel 7

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Blatant Sexism 4

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

We return, following a brief post-Thought Bubble blogging break, with a look at yet another instance of Reed being a sexist git to his one true love, Sue. Except that this doesn't seem quite as much fun to look at as it used to. This is the first blog post written post-election, a divisive and horrible election where the candidate who won, despite his ridiculous lack of qualifications, did so by preying on the outdated attitudes that divide us. These include race, homophobia, and misogyny.

There was always a tongue-in-cheek element to our looks at Stan Lee's insistence on writing his 1960s leading men as horribly sexist. To us, the idea of treating anyone as lesser, regardless of race, gender or sexuality, is pretty ridiculous, and up until earlier this year, our preferred way of tackling these incidents was to ridicule them and to refuse to take them particularly seriously. Which, when you're dealing with Stan's writing, is pretty easy to do. He's not exactly a serious writer. This hasn't always been the best tack to take, and we've certainly been guilty of not balancing each moment of mock with a more serious dismissal of these attitudes, instead relying on an assumed knowledge of our intentions and beliefs.

From an in-continuity perspective, props have to be given to both Ben and Johnny for taking Sue's side in the ridiculous, non-debate over whether she should be joining in with the fight against Doom. Reed has seemingly forgotten when Sue went toe-to-toe with Doctor Doom in hand-to-hand combat back in Fantastic Four #17 (despite the writing then crediting Reed with teaching her judo), and that with her force-fields, she is more than capable of participating in the fight. This attitude would, thankfully, dissipate as the book moved on into the 1960s, but it's also hard to read this panel without being reminded of the terrible treatment of Sue at the hands of Reed in the late 120s.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Thought Bubble 2016

Let's talk about this year's Thought Bubble, because I only got home a few hours ago, the suitcase isn't yet unpacked, and the memories are still fresh.

I've been going to Thought Bubble for five years now. I've gone every year that we have been doing the podcast, and have had a fantastic time each year. A big part of that is the social aspect of the convention, as between con-goers and comics creators, there are a lot of people that I know that head to Leeds every November. And, with one exception, I've been able to spend time at each convention with Andy.

In previous years, I've attended as an attendee, with a rucksack full of books to get signed by creators. It's rewarding, but exhausting. This year, I attended for the first time as an exhibitor, taking The Fantasticast to its first comic convention. We shared Table 11 in New Dock Hall with Michael Georgiou, who you will know as the artist for the show.

Due to a lovely coincidence in timing, we found ourselves in a position to be able to launch a new visual look for the show at Thought Bubble this year (this look will go live next weekend). As a result, we decided to go all-in with the new logo, riffing on the next iteration of the comics logo. We also asked Mike to revisit the heads that border each episode image, as the ones we've been using over the past 3 years were taken from a piece of artwork, and were never designed for that specific role. With a new logo (initial design by show designer Sam Savage, and adapted by Mike) and artwork, we then went and ordered a banner and business cards. And t-shirts. And mugs. And stickers. We had a lot of stuff!

After missing the show last year, Andy made a return this year. Sam Savage also made an appearance, meaning that after a very close-miss in 2014, we finally managed to get all four of us in one place at the same time. As well as taking silly pictures, we also managed to steal away for half an hour to record an episode of Steve & Andy vs The Fantastic Four (Cartoons) for our Patreon backers who are eligible for this.

Andy also brought his wife Ange, who I was very surprised to discover was an actual person and not just a distant background voice. It was lovely to meet her in person, and we made an energetic and engaging team behind the table.

Our main activity was talking about the podcast to various people who stopped by the table. We sold stickers featuring the new artwork, and handed out many business cards. To take advantage of many guest-hosts (previous and future) being at the convention, we did some at-table recording, subjecting our hapless hosts to a Fantastic Four pop quiz. We'll be messing around with the audio over the next few weeks, and hope to be able to present this as a Christmas special.

Both days were huge amounts of fun, even if Sunday was tempered with exhaustion from celebrating at the mid-convention party. I didn't get to go around the tables as much as I wanted to, but I did manage to grab a few small press comics, and dive into some back-issue bins for issues of Fantastic Four and Marvel Two-in-One.

I'll almost certainly forget some people. but people make the show, and this is now going to be an incomplete list of people who helped make this one of the most enjoyable conventions I've ever attended:

Seb Patrick, Joe Cunningham, Laura Cunningham, Rob Cureton, Bekki Tordoff, Christine Hanefalk. Stacey Taylor, Jenni Newman, Phil Thomas, David Wynne, Ian Sharman, 'Olly Rose, Al Kennedy, Colin Bell, Kelly Kanayama, Fraser Geesin, Dan White, Sarah Millman, Sian Jefferson, Abigail Brady, Rich Johnston, Kulbir Mann, Micheal Leyland, Angela Leyland, and anyone else who helped make this weekend really great. But, especially, Sam Savage, Michael Georgiou, and Andrew Leyland.

Michael Georgiou, Andrew Leyland and Steve Lacey survey their weekend domain, casting literal shade on the face of Doctor Doom

A slightly-out-of-focus Sam Savage joins us all to replace the banner with our t-shirts.

Once upon a time there were four little podcasters who went away to a comics convention...

We found a Daredevil blogger! Steve and Andy meet up with our most request guest-host, Christine Hanefalk.

Having given up climbing under the table, We decide to lean precariously into fan-favourite guest-host Stacey Taylor. If you look closely, you can see why Steve's looking so happy...

Steve finally takes possession of a long-awaited gift from Michael Bailey, and proceeds to talk about it all weekend to anyone who will listen.

We sold stickers featuring our lovely new artwork!

Obligatory swag shot #1 - new purchases. There were not enough of these, but Steve had very little time away from the table. Turncoat is by previous guest-host Ryan O'Sullivan!

Obligatory swag shot #2 - More additions to Steve's Marvel Two-in-One collection.

Obligatory swag shot #3 - Additions to Steve's Fantastic Four collection

Obligatory swag shot #4 - How could Steve resist this Ramona Fradon-drawn piece of wonder?

See you all next year!

Guardians of the Galaxy #7 Review

Guardians of the Galaxy #7

It's been a few issues since I've talked about the covers to these comics. Art Adams is the primary cover artist, and his detailed art style really works with this cover. This cover does a fantastic job of getting me excited about this issue. The Thing, wielding a sword, riding a dinosaur, clutching a pretty girl. It promises a Conan-esque swords-and-sorcery romp, and the idea of putting the Thing in this genre, with his humour and ability to puncture the po-faced nature of the genre, really attracts me.

Of course, this is a Brian Michael Bendis Guardians of the Galaxy comic, so the contents of the book don't really bear much of a resemblance to the cover. We have a Rocket Raccoon/Thing solo adventure, with the two of them rescuing some people from the Badoon. As with the preceding issue, not much time is spent on why the two heroes are on the planet in the first place. We open with Rocket captured by the Badoon, but Bendis is far more interested in his take on Rocket's banter than he is in providing a reason for him to be in the situation that he's in.

When it comes to focusing on The Thing, I'm conflicted by this issue. He gets a great entrance, leaping from low orbit and landing with enough force to send the Badoon into disarray, and Bendis writes him with an easy relaxation, like a lot of the worries of his time on the Fantastic Four have been lifted and he can just enjoy messing around in space. I rather like this version of the Thing, it's a characterisation that works for me and one that syncs with his new situation.

I'm less enamoured by the story element that sees Ben fall for an alien and sort-of-get married. I think there's a good story to be had out of taking his relaxed attitude further, realising that a lot of his relationship hangups don't apply in space, but everything happens so quickly (literally, the entire scope of this comic doesn't cover more than about an hour, at most) that it feels really hollow. I struggle to believe that Ben would accept this situation without a moment of reflecting on what has come before, and it feels like deeper characterisation has been sacrificed for a not-particularly-interesting story.

Valerio Schiti's artwork continues in the same vein as before. His faces have a weird angular nature to them that definitely shouldn't be present for The Thing. His body acting is exaggerated and, at one point, completely at odds with the script. Rocket cries out 'Mazel too!' before admitting that he has no idea what it means, he only knows it from Kitty, whilst the art puts him in a pose like he's doing an impression of Larry David.

With The Thing taking the spotlight for the first time since the first issue, I was hoping for a good look at how Bendis feels that he fits in with the Guardians of the Galaxy. I can't help feel, however, that this is a huge missed opportunity.

Until I catch-up to month of publication, I'll be able to refer to the sales charts to take a look at how well this book is performing. Guardians of the Galaxy #7 was 45th on the sales charts for March 2016, a fall of 16 places. Sales in North America were estimated to be a little over 40123, a fall of approx. 8207, or 20%.

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Reed's Stretchy Body 83

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 18, panel 2

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Reed's Stretchy Body 83

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

Now that Doom has been revealed as the perpetrator behind the conflict, the team can get themselves back together to confront him. This means that Ben and Johnny's tussle needs breaking up, and the best way to that would be for Reed to completely restrain him with his arms. The following panel shows him spinning Ben like a top, which is the inevitable conclusion to such a manoeuvre.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Blatant Sexism 3

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 17, panels 6-7

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Blatant Sexism 3

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

I do not like the version of Reed Richards we see in these two panels. I'm genuinely disgusted that he would respond to anyone, not least of which the woman he professes to love, in such a reductive way. Shame on you, Reed, and shame on you Stan Lee for writing this.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Sue's Force Fields of Awesome 16

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 17, panels 3-4

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Sue's Force Fields of Awesome 16

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

Once again, hay is made from the idea that Sue's force fields are an unknown quantity to foes of the Fantastic Four. Although Doctor Doom has faced off against the Invisible Girl since she developed these new abilities, she used them in a stealthy manner, projecting them through a wall.

I really like this use of the force-field, protecting against a blaster before defenestrating Doctor Doom. More people should be thrown through windows by invisible force-fields in Fantastic Four comics.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Reed's Stretchy Body 82

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 17, panel 1

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Reed's Stretchy Body 82

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

It's a little harsh to brand the final story in this annual as 'throwaway', but coming after the detailed origin of Doctor Doom, and the enjoyable wackiness of the reprint of Fantastic Four #5, having the team fight each other for a bit in an embassy is underwhelming. The whole story feels like filler, from the uninspired conflicts through the conclusion of the Reed/Doom mind battle (spoilers: this is the one where Reed convinces Doom that he's killed him, so the villain happily walks away).

Even this moment that snaps Sue and Reed out of their conflict lacks weight. Doctor Doom randomly decides to check if his face is still messed up, and when he sees his reflection, he starts shooting up the room that he's in, which distracts the feuding lovers.

What works a bit better is how Reed gets himself out of the way of one of Doom's errant laser blasts, corkscrewing his body to maintain his momentum without getting hit, an example of how Kirby's energetic visuals can raise any old tired plot.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

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Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 15, panel 4

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Sue's Force Fields Of Awesome 15

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

Visually, I'm not a fan of this panel. If I was battling Reed, I'd be looking to control his extremities, keeping his arms and legs restrained. His stomach is not that much of a threat. The depiction of the force-field also make me feel like the letterer forgot to fill in the 'speech' in a thought balloon.

What I do like is that this is the first time Sue has used her force-fields offensively against Reed. She protected him from Namor in Fantastic Four #27, but here, influenced by Doctor Doom and believing she's seen Reed snogging another woman, she really goes for him.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Sue's Force Fields Of Awesome 14

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 14, panel 5

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Sue's Force Fields Of Awesome 14

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

The gimmick of this story is that, aided by a spiked drink which increases their susceptibility, Doctor Doom has been creating illusions of the team to foster distrust amongst them, tipping them into a place where they will fight each other. Just how this illusion managed to trip Johnny is a bit beyond me, but we'll move on.

Although the panel doesn't do the greatest job of portraying it, Sue is happy to use her force-field to extinguish Johnny's flame. In my mind, she'd do this by encasing his body in the field momentarily, starving his flame of oxygen without suffocating him. Here, Kirby depicts it more as a winding, the force of the impact into his stomach knocking the flame out.

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Property Damage 36

Fantastic Four Annual #2, page 13, panels 3-4

Fantastic Four Annual #2: Property Damage 36

A Stan Lee Story Spectacular

A Jack Kirby Illustrative Idyll

A Chic Stone Delineation Delight

A Sam Rosen Lettering Landmark

'm a little unsure if this should be included in the Property Damage count. On the one hand, the wall is the same wall that Johnny had already burst through, but on the other hand, Ben is a lot bigger, and he certainly damaged fresh bits of the wall that were previously mildly-singed at best.

I threw in the second panel, as Ben seems to recognise the general bad-ideaness of burning through other-people's walls. Of course, at this point, neither of them knows that Doctor Doom is in charge of Latveria. That piece of knowledge might just have tempered their wall-destroying tempers...

Check out our coverage of Fantastic Four Annual #2 on our thirty-fourth episode: The Doomcast, with special guest host Alan Middleton